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danielsoy
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Jun 25, 2014, 2:03 AM

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Hi ppl, this is my first post.

Would like to know if i may ask a question about
a LCD PC monitor (not tv) repair.

Thanks.

jts1957
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Jun 25, 2014, 2:49 AM

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Sure. Why not?

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danielsoy
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Jun 25, 2014, 11:02 PM

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Ok , thanks JTS.

This is a Samsung monitor SyncMaster 2233 that shows frozen video of a moving image by just a second, and then goes dim.
So I can see just a frame by a second, when i watch a movie for instance, then the screen stays white, but image fades away and don’t return.

When i turn monitor off, and then on again, or if I change PC video output, from internal to external , get the same effect .A frame that last a bit, and fades.Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZGTuNltrnA

I cleaned up a cockroaches nest over the main board ,that was a lil rusty.

Power supply voltages, are ok and without ripple .X-tal is oscillating
at 12mhz.

Is it possible, by connecting my scope to the main board output that goes to de LCD flexible wire, to confirm if is the LCD panel, or the main board the part at fault?

jts1957
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Jun 25, 2014, 11:40 PM

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It's also upside down.
Computer is set to output the correct display parameters/resolution?
Does it do this on DVI & 15pin?
Does Self-Check feature work properly?

Do you have the Service literature?

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danielsoy
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Jun 26, 2014, 2:24 AM

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It was easier take the video with monitor upside down, cause monitor was opened in that position ,but image its not inverted indeed.

Screen config is ok.

Input is VGA(theres no DVI).I have Hsync ,Vsync And video input on that connector and in the microprocessor pins.

Did not try to access to service mode .

Got service manual of another monitor similar to this one.

I can see something like a video signal at 60hz, on the flex wire connector pins that goes to the LCD panel.
And setting scope to 20nsec, there is something like a clock on the clkm and clkp outputs.

Service manual says that LCD panel is broken, but I´m not sure...

Video n clock signals oscillogram is uploading.

https://www.youtube.com/...amp;feature=youtu.be

jts1957
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Jun 26, 2014, 3:34 AM

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What is full model number?
What is similar Service manual number?

Scaler PCB is at one end of the LVDS cable, the other end usually plugs into a PCB that is part of the TFT display. There is sometimes a small surface mount fuse for 5V line on this board that opens.

from User Manual ...
Self-Test Feature Check:
1. Turn off both your computer and the monitor.
2. Unplug the video cable from the back of the computer.
3. Turn on the monitor.
If the monitor is functioning properly, you will see a box in the illustration below.
This box appears during normal operation if the video cable becomes disconnected or
damaged.
4. Turn off your monitor and reconnect the video cable; then turn on both your computer
and the monitor.
If your monitor screen remains blank after using the previous procedure, check your video
controller and computer system; your monitor is functioning properly.

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danielsoy
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Jun 26, 2014, 3:33 PM

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Model is:

Front :Samsung Syncmaster 2233
Back cover sticker:LS22CMYKFNA/ZB11329

Service Manual:
http://www.4shared.com/...chassis_ls22myn.html

Monitor inner view:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzkXw6molww

clkout signal from main board connector, to lcd panel (20nsec hor timebase)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXStE0CfRyM

jts1957
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Jun 26, 2014, 5:42 PM

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Did you perform self test and check for the fuse? Unimpressed

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danielsoy
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Jun 26, 2014, 8:33 PM

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Yes, i did it ,but no luck....

BTW, there some meaningfull oscillograms on the LCD panel board,
so i know that it has vcc and I can see some signals that look like rectangular clocks.

But can´t tell for sure, who is the culprit.

jts1957
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Jun 26, 2014, 9:28 PM

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Did you check for a fuse on the TFT attached PCB?

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danielsoy
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Jun 26, 2014, 10:38 PM

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Yes, I found one fuse marked as: FU1, and it is not open.

jts1957
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Jun 26, 2014, 11:30 PM

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Then, unless you can find a schematic for the panel assembly and repair the board, I'm going to agree that panel is bad. Subbing is only way to prove.

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danielsoy
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Jun 27, 2014, 2:13 AM

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That´s right.
If I find info about the panel, will post back.

Thanks a lot for your help JTS Tongue

jts1957
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Jun 27, 2014, 2:58 AM

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What is panel nomenclature? Cool

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danielsoy
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Jun 27, 2014, 1:43 PM

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Chunghwa 215FA01S.

Found this pdf.

http://www.4shared.com/...duG/lcd_dispaly.html

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