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marcus
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Mar 13, 2007, 5:58 PM

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Have a PTK169, and have a problem with the SMPS. Generally it is the caps next to the IC, but not in this case. the voltage on pin 16 fluctuates and the smpt starts three times. There is no short on the secondary windings. HOT is fine. C141, main B+ cap charges up to 160 then declines. It takes three cylces of the smps to get to that voltage. I repaired this unit over 3mos ago, replaced HV splitter and I always change the caps in the smps whether they're needed or not. But this problem has me stumpted. Pin 16 fluctuates around 8 volts, should be a constant 13volts even with pin 14 disconnected it fluctuates, the IC has been subed out with a working ic, so it's not the ic.

Any suggestions, and is there a flow chart or troubleshoting guide in pdf on the web that can be downloaded?

Thanks



Hect7369
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Mar 20, 2007, 3:41 PM

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Smile I heard from a friend w/same symptom...even he replaced the IC(I beleive is TEA2261)2 times,replacing w/ a third...solved the problem(this means..IC's that were replaced(new),were bad)..
Good Luck.


TV guy 1966
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Mar 21, 2007, 1:09 AM

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I believe your new splitter is defective. The unit is going though a 3 strikes you out. This is normally caused by a load on the secondary of the supply. If you got one of those cheap replacements, chances are it is defective.Good Luck.


marcus
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Mar 21, 2007, 4:14 PM

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U4101 was replaced with a known good unit. My problem is I cannot get a constant standby-mode voltage (140 volts).

Thank you


marcus
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Mar 21, 2007, 4:26 PM

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I took your advice and disconnected the splitter form the Flyback and still couldn't get a regulated ourput from the low voltage power supply (U4101). There are no shorts on the secondary of the switching transformer or B+ source voltage. It has to be in the U4101 circuit. This IC has many shut down safty features Imax pin3 is suspect.

What I could use is the RCA PKT169 training manual, not the schematic. The training manual describes ciruits used in the 169 and trouble shooting guides.

Thank You


Hect7369
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Mar 21, 2007, 5:06 PM

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Smile Obviously,you got SMPS faulty...try injecting a constant Vcc to IC(14 vdc,pin 16)...see what happen.Check every critical resistor and caps(SMPS)even if they are ok,replace them.Check SCR501..in vert.circuit...have to find out what's wrong..


Larry E
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Mar 22, 2007, 4:09 AM

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Marcus, the fact that your voltage is going up/down on pin 16 says the set is in an over current condition, you stated you replaced the smps caps, I`m going to assume you have changed, not checked C4102, C4104 and C4108 correct? If you haven`t changed all 3, do so. Next thing to try is to pull P1903, the audio plug on the stand-up board that has the audio output on it, the plug is toward the tube half way up on the front edge of the audio board, once pulled re-check pin 16 for a steady state voltage. I`ve seen the audio board cause your symptom a dozen times. Other things to check are the emitter resistor on Q4101 it has to be exact or it can cause your problem, value is .18 2 watt thats point 18 not eighteen Ohms. Pull one end of the resistor and check with a good meter, if it reads .20 or higher it must be replaced, check the above and let me know the results, ps be more specific when you say you`ve changed something, ie; "I replaced the caps" instead tell me you replaced C1xxx then theres no confusion, the 169 has lots of failures in the power suplly, some veeery odd, :) Larry E

 
 
 


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